John Deere 8R Maximum HP?

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At official specifications, the highest power is 450 hp. FS 19 shows 435 hp in the list? There must be a mistake. :hmm: Image
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the 35hp is for stationary pto work and roadspeeds abouve 25km/h Accord to jd webpage :)
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crash wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:15 pm the 35hp is for stationary pto work and roadspeeds abouve 25km/h Accord to jd webpage :)
Except PTO, is the maximum power normally 400 HP?
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yes. it should be....i though the pto hp was part of the 400.
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Look up the NH T7 on NH`s pages. the T7.230 has 3 hp numbers 150,180 and 225.. One is rated engine hp, one is pto and the last is max engine epm, (guess its the same as rpm..) http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/ ... ifications

The JD 5125R is sold as a 125hp tractor, but has 10hp aviable as boost, in said circumstances. John deere calls this IPM or Intelligent Power managment. so the 8400R has 50 aviable. Bigger eninge equals more Power from increasing rpm..

here, JD sales manual
http://salesmanual.deere.com/sales/sale ... ement.html
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Ok it's due to the lose of power through the drive train via the transmission, axle or hydraulics that engine has 450hp once it gets through the transmission and axle it has 400hp at the wheels, so the PTO will have 435hp because it has less lose so the HP rating is not wrong or a mistake once you learn it, it makes more sense.
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crash wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:00 am Look up the NH T7 on NH`s pages. the T7.230 has 3 hp numbers 150,180 and 225.. One is rated engine hp, one is pto and the last is max engine epm, (guess its the same as rpm..) http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/ ... ifications

The JD 5125R is sold as a 125hp tractor, but has 10hp aviable as boost, in said circumstances. John deere calls this IPM or Intelligent Power managment. so the 8400R has 50 aviable. Bigger eninge equals more Power from increasing rpm..

here, JD sales manual
http://salesmanual.deere.com/sales/sale ... ement.html
I understand. They are taking these situations into account.
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Cmtaylor wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:00 am Ok it's due to the lose of power through the drive train via the transmission, axle or hydraulics that engine has 450hp once it gets through the transmission and axle it has 400hp at the wheels, so the PTO will have 435hp because it has less lose so the HP rating is not wrong or a mistake once you learn it, it makes more sense.
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Cmtaylor wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:00 am Ok it's due to the lose of power through the drive train via the transmission, axle or hydraulics that engine has 450hp once it gets through the transmission and axle it has 400hp at the wheels, so the PTO will have 435hp because it has less lose so the HP rating is not wrong or a mistake once you learn it, it makes more sense.

the drivetrain loss is much higher.. and the Power to ground(drawbar Power) is somewwhat inbetween rated engine hp, and pto Power

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The reason for it beeing 435hp in game is pretty simple if you think about it.

here; Case ih magnum 380cvx, 435hp max
https://www.caseih.com/northamerica/en- ... gnum-380#0


and here, NH T8.435 also 435hp max
http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/ ... ifications

pto Power is pretty much the same as jd on the last one 315hp..


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crash wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:50 pm The reason for it beeing 435hp in game is pretty simple if you think about it.

here; Case ih magnum 380cvx, 435hp max
https://www.caseih.com/northamerica/en- ... gnum-380#0


and here, NH T8.435 also 435hp max
http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/ ... ifications

pto Power is pretty much the same as jd on the last one 315hp..


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Good catch, it's indeed 450.
We fixed that just right in time for the factsheet to have the correct value. Apparently I forgot to update the list on the website. It will have the correct values with the next update :)
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Ah, my thoughts where that the three tractors where made equal :)
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bassaddict wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:13 am Good catch, it's indeed 450.
We fixed that just right in time for the factsheet to have the correct value. Apparently I forgot to update the list on the website. It will have the correct values with the next update :)
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Maybe we should also acknowledge that this is a game, and sometimes compromises will need to be made such that not all vehicles/implements can have technical details that are 100% accurate?

I'm all for accurate representation, but would prefer gameplay optimization/functionality/features over a few little details here and there :)
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